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1BBL  -  WAIST BELT KEEPER FOR THE M1874 HAGNER BELT.  Click on each thumbnail photo for larger view   This includes the U.S., plus all the states and organizations which adopted this design.  Dimensions will determine whether this keeper fits your plate.  Some fitting may be necessary.  This keeper is for the Hagner 1874 plate designed for the Palmer Brace system.  Keeper has loop at top.  Plate was 2.11” tall.  Tongue hole is 0.58”.  $35

2BBL  -  WWII JAPANESE REPLICA TYPE 99 INFANTRY COMBAT BELT-CARTRIDGE BOX SET.  More Photos, Click Here   Often referred to as the Navy pattern, when in fact they were designed for the 7.7mm cartridge of the Type 99 rifle.  Originals are virtually unobtainable.  This is a replica in exacting detail, which in my opinion is better than the original, both in workmanship and quality. Entirely combat worthy.  It includes EVERYTHING! ... Waist belt with solid brass buckle, the two front, wedge shaped cartridge boxes with over-the-top closing strap, the bayonet frog with little belt/buckle on front, and the large, rear,  bulk 60 round ammo pouch, WITH OILER on side, again in exacting detail.  Just the single bulk cartridge box without oiler brings $200 in the original.  For display or reenactment, you could not hope to obtain better.  All matching reddish brown, lustrous heavy leather with white stitching.  Superb.  Unbelievably, there are even cardstock cartridge packets (no internals) with Japanese writing in the two front boxes!!  $95 each...wholesale, and under our cost

4BBL  -  WAIST BELT KEEPERS FOR CIVIL WAR OFFICER/NCO WAIST BELTS.  Brass.  For the M1851 Rectangular Eagle belt plate, or any one of the many state, city, or organization rectangular plates.  Dimensions will determine whether this keeper fits your plate.  Some fitting may be necessary.  Click on each thumbnail photo for larger view 

C.  Measures 2.072" tall.  Tongue hole 0.545" wide.  $25

D.  Measures 2.120" tall.  Tongue hole 0.545" wide.  $25

E.  Measures 2.158" tall.  Tongue hole 0.588" wide.  $25

F.  Thin silver plated brass.  For a lighter than average plate.  Measures 2.0" tall.  Narrow tongue hole 0.478" wide.  $20

G.  Not sure what plate this one goes to.  Measures 1.88" tall.  Tongue hole a bit wider than usual, and the tongue would likely be a bit thinner.  Tongue hole 0.654" wide.  $10

5BBL  -  UNBELIEVABLE REVOLUTIONARY WAR HESSIAN'S CARTRIDGE BOX.  More Photos, Click Here  This has to be one of the best surviving specimens on earth.  In my career, I've never seen another which even approaches this in condition. A very large box, typifying the Hessian equipments which are normally characterized as large, heavy, awkward and ponderous.  Hessian soldiers are also frequently spoken of in histories with sympathy, for these very facts.  Unfortunately, almost nothing survives from these imported soldiers.  Thus, this cartridge box is a marvel.  It is 11 3/8" wide across the front flap, and 8 ½" high.  The leather is as flexible as new.  It never had the quality of finish as found on American accoutrements even of that period.  The surface was left a bit rough and simply dyed black.  The box itself has every edge seam covered with off-white rawhide, before the edges were sewn together.  Inside has a drilled wood block to hold 16 paper cartridges.  There is a soft doeskin skirt over the wood block to protect against rain.  On the face of the box is a maroon red leather implement pouch.  It appears to be original, though it is rather crude.  Reverse of box has heavy 1 3/8" wide strap of leather horizontally across the top.  This serves to create two shoulder sling guides. There are two buckles on the bottom for the shoulder sling, and one for the front flap closing strap.  Virtually unused condition with gentle age.  $1,550

7BBL  -  CIVIL WAR BRITISH IMPORT PISTOL OR CARBINE CARTRIDGE BOXES.  More Photos, Click Here  Heavy dark brown leather – once russet brown, but with oiling during use and storage, color is darkened.  Flexible but a bit stiff.  We just uncovered a small lot put away in storage about 20 years ago.  Amazing what you can find when you move and have to go through piles of stuff accumulated over decades of collecting.  Tough boxes 5 1/8” wide, 2 5/8” high, 1 7/8” deep (exterior measurements).  Has inner and outer flap in the conventional design.  And has closing strap sewn to cover flap which goes over a brass stud on the bottom.  Reverse has single 2 ½” wide belt loop.  These are very good as they run.  Could be Confederate used, as much but not all British imports went South.   Have one without the closing strap for $75  or  As they come…Each…$95

8BBL  -  CIVIL WAR BRITISH IMPORT PERCUSSION CAP POUCHES.  Click on each thumbnail photo for larger view of representative samples  Came with the lot of British import cartridge boxes we obtained 25-30 years ago.  Been in storage so long, we had forgotten about them.  A very odd design on these pouches.  Worn on the belt, with one narrow belt loop, they are almost flat when empty. “U” shaped, flat across the top at the bend of the cover flap.  They accordion open as they are filled.  There is a thin folded strap sandwiched between front and back, all along the side, which unfolds as needed.  These side pieces are rather stiff now and need to be relaxed, to see how these pouches can expand.  Cover flap closes on brass stud on front.  Heavy russet leather darkened buy age and oils.  Very good.  Several have one end of belt loop loose and needs re-sewing.  Belt loop with loose end…$60 Each  A few left      As they come…$70 Each  These are sold

9BBL  -  ABOUT MINT U.S. NAVY CIVIL WAR PISTOL HOLSTER.  More Photos, Click Here  Typical Navy style where considerable barrel is exposed. Perfectly fits the Whitney Navy and the M1860 Colt Army.  I doubt this holster has ever seen use, and only had a revolver inside for display.  No flaking to finish.  No cracking to finish.  No flexing to finish.  Minor rubs only.  Unmarked.  6 3/8” high.  4 ½” wide.  Only one I ever had to offer.  $495

10BBL  -  RARE, RARE CIVIL WAR INFANTRY CARTRIDGE BOX CONVERTED TO .50-70 CARTRIDGE BOX FOR THE EARLY INDIAN WARS.  More Photos, Click Here  See pg. 35 of McChristian’s “U.S. Army in the West”, for this one. This is a regulation Civil War .58 caliber Infantry cartridge box converted to carry .50-70 metallic cartridges, by removing its tins and replacing them with sheepskin fleece lining.  I haven’t had one of these (or even seen one) for at least 15 years.  Marked on each end “C.S. STORMS/MARKER N.Y.”.  Excellent overall condition.  Minor fine grained cracking to surface finish of closing flap.  Some minor flaking along upper bend.  Large grained cracking to finish of inner flap.  Thick fleece lining to box and lower half of closing flap.  Complete with buckles on bottom.  Rest of box has overall lustrous finish with very excellent leather.  Virtually impossible to replace. The first cartridge box for the M1866 Allin, and the '68 & '70 Trapdoors.  $850

11BBL  -  VERY GOOD CIVIL WAR CAVALRY CARBINE CARTRIDGE BOX.  More Photos, Click Here  Standard Union issue black bridle leather with wood block insert drilled large enough to take 20 rounds of any carbine.  Nice flexible leather.  Cover flap finish has pattern of fine cracking but no flaking.  Inner flap about good as new.  Minor pattern of finish cracking to implement pouch flap.  Complete with buckles and straps.  Closing strap broken short at hole.  Cover flap marked by maker “J. DAVY/Newark, N.J.”.  Very scarce boxes in recent years, and always priced well over ours.  $295

12BBL  -  MINT WWI U.S. ARMY .45 CALIBER PISTOL CLIP POUCH.  Click on each thumbnail photo for larger view  Made and marked by the famous Mills Co.  Heavy khaki Mills woven double clip pouch with closing flap with two snap closures.  Have one 1918 dated, and a few 1919 dated.  Whether dated 1918 or 1919, the dark ink stamp markings inside the flap are the same and are “DATE/large bullet logo around “MILLS”/PAT. JULY 16; 07 OCT. 22; 18”.  Remember…MINT.  Can’t believe these exist.      1918…$25 (Have 2)    1919…$20 (Have 1)

13BBL  -  MINT WWII U.S. ARMY .45 CALIBER PISTOL CLIP POUCH.  Click on each thumbnail photo for larger view  Heavy web double clip pouch in light olive.  Has closing flap with single snap closure.  Reverse has clear ink stamp maker’s mark and date 1942.  Hard to believe such a thing still exists.  Great accessory to a .45.  Only the Boyle 1942 is available.  $25

14BBL  -  ANTIQUE COWBOY BELT BUCKLE.  Click on each thumbnail photo for larger view   1 7/8 x 3 3/16”.  Cast brass with Western scene in relief on face.  Shows cowboy lassoing a long-horned steer.  Mountain in background.   Form of buckle was introduced by the military and fraternal organizations just after the Civil War, with a few earlier exceptions.  The form is defined by a curved face, matching the curve of the body, with a belt loop on one end of the back, with a wide tongue on the other.  I judge the age of this buckle to be C.1930-50, possibly a few years earlier.  Excellent.  Has untouched tarnish patina.  A nice, original and scarce Western collectible.  Found this one in Alaska.  $45

15BBL  -  M1874 INDIAN WARS TO SPANISH AMERICAN WAR OFFICER’S SUMMER WAIST BELT.  More Photos, Click Here  Likely also worn by NCO’s.  Has M1874 Rectangular Eagle belt plate on while enameled leather.  Heavy cast brass M1874 eagle belt plate with mild convex face, indicating a date around 1880.  The belt is white enameled leather, toned a bit toward grey from age.  Finish has generalized pattern of very fine cracking from flexing.  No sword straps, which would have been optional and slip on and off.  Not included.  Leather flexible and strong.  $225

16BBL  -  EXTREMELY RARE M1881 MILLS CARTRIDGE BELT.  More Photos, Click Here  I don't even remember ever having this variety before; probably a state militia purchase during the hasty equipping for the S.A.W.  The wide "H" pattern, stamped sheet brass plate, has no insignia at center, AND IMPORTANTLY, it has no oval depression at center.  I have seen only a couple of examples with depressed oval, but no insignia.  This one is entirely blank on the face, made for the user to apply letters or numbers (never done on this).  Marked on the reverse "ANSON MILLS PAT. FEB 1, 1881/T. C. ORNDORFF SOLE MANF/WORCESTER, MASS/USA".  Comes on original khaki web cartridge belt, now just dusty and with a bit of damp stain.  Cartridge loops so carefully removed, you would barely know they had been there.  Came from family who said the owner carried 4 McKeever cartridge boxes on the belt instead.  Span Am War combat belt, modified to carry a real load! Should be at least $275.   $195

18BBL  -  CAPTURED VIET CONG/NVA CARTRIDGE BELTS.  More Photos, Click Here  From the Vietnam War.  Had a box of these sitting around storage longer than I can remember.  Definitely saw combat.  Excellent O.D. to light olive canvas with some field grime.  Belt is 5 ½” tall, faced its entire length with 10 pouches for cartridge clips, 7.62.  Each pouch has closing flap held closed by wood stud pointed at each end, which goes through web loop.  Really stout gear with over-shoulder slings and web waist straps.  Some marked on rear, all a bit different.  Looks like Chinese writing. For SKS & AK.  Each...$45  Photos show a representative sample...that exact one shown is sold. All are comparable.

22BBL  -  MYSTERY RIFLE SLING DATED 1897.  More Photos, Click Here  Has oval stamping which is partially legible.  Center has date; bottom word only shows last part which is the key to the puzzle.  I can read “_ _ ?_ _ EDORF”.  Sounds German.  You figure it out, and you’ll have an excellent sling for the gun.  Approximately 45" long x 1 3/16" wide.  Both ends have steel studs to close a folding loop.  Very strong, flexible leather. Dark brown.  Shows lots of flexing.  Would fit numerous WWI European weapons.  $25

23BBL  -  CIVIL WAR LEATHER CAVALRY CARBINE SOCKET.  More Photos, Click Here  Roughly 2 ½” high, heavy black leather tube or cuff with narrow leather strap and buckle around the outside.  This affixes it to the right side of the saddle.  The carbine barrel was held in it, stopping it from bouncing around.  The rear of the carbine was controlled by the carbine sling.  Condition is very good.  Has most finish with some shallow surface cracking.  Strap finish shows flexing and surface cracking. Have 3.   Two (A & B) as described…each $65.  Third (C) has small piece out of the leather loop which holds the buckle…this $45  A is Sold...B & C are AVAILABLE

27BBL  -  M1874 INDIAN WARS OFFICER'S SWORD BELT.  More Photos, Click Here  Has a fine, heavy, highly detailed M1874 rectangular eagle sword belt plate, nickel plated.  Probably dates in the 1870’s.  Belt is black leather, quite flexible and fairly strong.  Made in the conventional way of wrapping thin leather around an internal stiffener, with a horizontal seam on the inside middle.  Next to the plate, the back seam is open for about 4”, and the leather has a 1” tear.  The exterior finish is fairly consistently smooth and evenly worn.  It has both slide on & off sword strap; both are broken and need restoration or replacements.  One of the original snap swivels on the swords straps is missing, and we will supply a matched pair, nickel plated and original (they are shown in the photos).  Overall a good display specimen with potential for improvement if straps are restored or replaced.  $250

28BBL  -  VERY NICE U.S. CAVALRY CARBINE BOOT.  More Photos, Click Here  M1884 as slightly modified by the government in 1885, by lowering the bottom strap – see Frasca & Hill on .45-70’s, pg. 283.  Body of heavy black leather body has mostly undisturbed original smooth finish - pattern of surface cracking on the raised portion of the spine, for a few inches.  Well marked “ROCK ISLAND/ARSENAL”.  Upper strap shows flexing.  Lost the front copper rivet, simply replaced.  Lower strap doesn’t even show flexing.  Complete.  $295

29BBL  -  VERY NICE U.S. CAVALRY CARBINE BOOT – M1887.  More Photos, Click Here   Slightly longer than prior model and has a brass throat reinforcement.  Tough, heavy leather.  Very dark brown black.  Excellent original surface.  Minor areas of microscopic texturing.  Slightly  more prominent on the raised portion of the spine for a few inches.  Upper strap rivet connection was moved from its original position by the soldier to the opposite upper corner.  Excellent straps just showing flexing.  Complete.  $315

30BBL  -  U.S. M1885 SWORD STRAPS.  More Photos, Click Here  These went on the Hagner waist belt and on the prairie belts.  Through a bit of unusual fortune, we came across a small lot of these.  All are very good, showing use and age.  Consists of single heavy brass hook at top, suspending two leather sword straps.  Leather retains flexibility, and most surface finish showing flexing and surface cracking.  Simply could use some oil.  Have a few with the studs which hold the lower loops closed, and a few needing the studs.   With studs…$50    Without studs...$40

32BBL  -  LEATHER SHOULDER SLING FOR THE M1873 U.S. INFANTRY HAVERSACK.  CLICK FOR PHOTOS   You may occasionally find the haversack, but when was the last time you found the leather shoulder sling?  Going through old storage, we found this one.  Missing brass hooks on end (available from S & S…$6 repro pair…$15 original pair).  Stout, flexible leather with good finish.  Finish does show flexing and light wear.  $45

33BBL  -  EXCEPTIONALLY FINE ORIGINAL CIVIL WAR INFANTRY WAIST BELT.  More Photos, Click Here   In my opinion, as fine as they come. It was made to carry the percussion cap box, bayonet/scabbard, and at times, the cartridge box.  Just about 40” long, heavy black leather.  Never used.  Holes for the US oval undisturbed.  Opposite end had the holes for, but lacked the brass keeper.  We replaced the keeper with an exact reproduction.  Leather finish complete, disturbed only by tiny cracks due to flexing and a bit of collector handling.  Has two stamped markings…the large oval and sub-inspectors stamp, somewhat legible (_ HARTZLER/U.S. ORD DEPT/SUB INSPECTOR”, plus a maker’s stamp, perfectly visible, but due to the tiny lettering, is not legible unless you know by its shape, what is says.  $395

34BBL  -  VALUABLE MARKED & DATED CIVIL WAR INFANTRY WAIST BELT.  More Photos, Click Here  Near the middle of the belt, there is a familiar large stamped marking “WATERTOWN/ARSENAL/1863”.  About 90% legible.  Nice flexible black leather belt, 39” long.  Embossed edge line border.  Retains practically all original finish, lightly worn showing just a good deal of flexing/surface cracking.  Sound leather.  One end shows where U.S. oval plate was.  Opposite end is plain, showing the soldiers common practice of cutting off the keeper.  Another curious thing I’ve noticed is that a good many belts have lots of extra holes punched in.  They must have hung a lot of junk from the belts.  $250

36BBL  -  ORIGINAL CIVIL WAR CAVALRY CARBINE SLINGS!!  If you’ve been looking for one of these, you know how few appear on the market, and the enormous prices they bring.  The last price guide I saw had them listed at $1200-1800, depending on condition.  Reassembled ones, well done, if you can find one of these, have been priced around $800, at least in my experience.  We have an offer for you, which we believe you can’t refuse.  About 40 years ago, I had the opportunity to buy a small lot of Cavalry Carbine Slings which came from Bannermans, from which the brass buckle and brass tip had been cut off for scrap.  The slings had all been used in the Civil War, and ranged in condition. They were still tied together, as Bannerman had sold them, in a pack of 25.  At the time, I thought these things would be worth something, some day, so I put them in storage.  We’ve just rediscovered them during our recent move, and I have reassembled them into complete slings.  The leather sling is original, the steel snap swivel is original, and the brass buckle and V-tip are exact reproductions.  The brass parts are so good that they can only be told from original with great difficulty.  Price will depend on condition and markings, if any.  Few are marked and are a premium.  There were so many makers that considerable minor variations exist between specimens, including length.  These completed slings are less than 2” shorter than they were originally, and are done up to exacting standards, a long and tedious job.  Please note, when these are gone, they are gone forever. Original slings, or original slings rebuilt are both rare on the market and are in great demand today.  It is unlikely that any other dealer will ever have anything similar to offer.  A representative selection is listed below:

B.   CLICK FOR PHOTOS  Cavalry Carbine Sling.  VERY GOOD.  48 5/8” long.  2 1/2” wide.  Stout, flexible.  Retains most original surface finish, with generalized pattern of surface cracking.  A little surface wear.  A couple small spots of flaking. Steel snap swivel has smooth wear, and some scattered thin patina left from an old cleaning.  A couple small spots of pitting.  $525

C.  CLICK FOR PHOTOS  Cavalry Carbine Sling.  EXCELLENT+.  50 1/8” long.  2 7/16” wide.  Strong, flexible.  As fine as we have, and we only have a very, very few in this prime condition. Embossed edge lien border. Retains essentially all original finish, only showing the resulting texture from normal flexing and minute surface cracking.  Better than many which were still in active service.  Has the number 25 stamped in the leather. Clean, excellent steel snap swivel.  Fine example.  $745

D.  CLICK FOR PHOTOS  Cavalry Carbine Sling.  GOOD-VERY GOOD.  47 1/2” long.  2 3/8” wide.  Sound, flexible.  Retains most original surface finish, with generalized pattern of fairly heavy surface cracking, and one area 9” long, with almost 70% flaking.  Embossed edge line border. Smooth, thin brown patina on excellent snap swivel easily cleaned.  $445

E.  CLICK FOR PHOTOS  Cavalry Carbine Sling.  EXCELLENT.  48 1/2” long.  2 7/16” wide.  Highly flexible.  Thinner than some; one of the many variations we’ve noted just in this small lot.  Embossed edge line border.  Retains essentially all of its original finish, which was fairly thin.  Now just shows smooth wear.  Color thinning a bit and would dress up nicely with a bit of polish.  Heavily stamped number 22 on leather.  Steel snap swivel excellent with dark grey patina and nicely marked on the inside, “O. B. North & Co./New Haven, CT.”.  Very nice sling.  One of my favorites in the lot.  $645

F.  CLICK FOR PHOTOS  Cavalry Carbine Sling.  VERY GOOD.  51 1/8” long.  2 3/8” wide. Sound and very flexible.  Retains nearly all of its original finish with generalized pattern of surface cracking, showing some areas of fine raised texture or surface wear.  Fairly clear but illegible remnant of the oval sub-inspector’s stamp near the tip, above traces of arsenal stamp.  Excellent steel snap swivel with almost generalized thin, brown patina.  Nothing scaly or deep.  $575

37BBL  -  COMPLETE CIVIL WAR CAVALRY CARBINE SLING KITS.  Save at least $75 and re-assemble the sling yourself.  We offer a few Civil War Cavalry Carbine Sling kits, listed below.  You get a very good, sound, flexible, original leather sling, original steel snap swivel, and reproduction brass buckle, belt tip, rivets, washers, and detailed directions – everything for a complete sling.  Price depends entirely on condition and markings if any.

B.  BIT ABOVE AVERAGE Sling.  More Photos, Click Here  54 5/8” long.  2 3/8 - 2 7/16” wide.  Retains about all original finish, with generalized pattern of fine cracking to the surface.  Some areas have this pattern raised into a shallow texture. Unmarked except a large, stamped 32B on the tip end.  The buckle end has the standard two-layer billet with rivets, which once held the buckle.  This serves as an example of how it should look when the buckle is replaced. All it lacks is the thinned section which went around the center bar of the buckle, with two elongated holes for the tongues.  Complete with all brass parts, and original steel snap swivel, fairly clean, and easily shined with a buffer.  $445

E.  CAVALRY CARBINE Sling.  More Photos, Click Here  52 ¾” long (and the tip has not been cut, showing that by comparison with numerous others, there was noticeable variation in original lengths).  2 1/4 - 2 3/8” wide.  Unmarked.  Tip end simply needs brass replaced.  Rivet holes and impression of original brass is untouched.  Buckle end has the two layer billet with rivets and sewing, just lacking the bit which folded over the buckle center bar.  Retains most original finish with one small area where the thin finish has flaked off.  The rest of the surface just shows a generalized pattern of surface cracking and some crazing (fine cracking to finish raising a shallow texture).  Complete with all brass pieces, rivets and washers needed to rebuild, plus original steel snap swivel.  The swivel is fairly clean with overlying, scattered grey to thin brown patina easily buffed to shine.   $445

38BBL  -  CIVIL WAR CAVALRY CARBINE SLING TURNED INTO A WAIST BELT!!   More Photos, Click Here  A soldier creation, turned-in, just like all the complete slings, ending up at Bannermans as surplus.  Bannermans cut the brass off the slings (and this belt) and sold it for scrap.  This sling-turned-belt is 34 ½” long, and the tip end is cut to a point almost 20” shorter.  It has a series of holes for the buckle added, showing clear impressions of being used this way.  Cut tip a little crude, but clearly done for belt use.  A thin strip was cut from one edge of the sling for about half its length, probably to make a shoe lace.  Sling (now belt) still has the 2 layer billet end with rivets and sewing where buckle was. Condition is good.  Flexible.  Very worn surface finish, prox. 70% intact.  Shows lots of use but not fragile.  With the belt you get all brass parts you need to rebuild with buckle, to obtain a real soldier’s waist belt.  As the Federal soldiers had no shortage of belts, this is very likely a Confederate-made modification.  (Considerable Confederate material ended up turned in as surplus after the War).  $150

39BBL  -  M1872 HAGNER U.S. INFANTRY WAIST BELTS.  Belts only.  Your opportunity to complete a belt rig which sells more easily and displays much better.  Just add the belt plate.  Takes the cast brass, rectangular “US” as well as any of the large variety of state plates then in use – some of the more familiar are “NY”, “N.G.P.”, “NJ”, R.I.M.”, however there are several more.  We have recently discovered a group of these regulation M1872 waist belts long in storage, and decided to offer them at once, at sale prices.   Separate belts are now, and always have been rare.  When these few are gone, there absolutely will not be any more.  We’ve had these tucked away for over 30 years.  Get them while you can.  All are basically the same in form.  Black bridle leather belt with brass keeper riveted and sewn to one end, and the opposite end designed to fold back on itself to adjust length.  It has a brass hook connector.  Many of these belts were made up from Civil War Infantry waist belts.  Marked belts are often in this category.  A very brief description will be given of each belt, only of pertinent points of condition.  Belt to belt, everything else should be the same.  Click on "PHOTOS" below for each belt

A.   PHOTOS  Sturdy.  90% finish, well worn, with raised texture from flexing and generalized cracking.  Fascinating feature occurs about 3” from hook end.  Along the top edge are four carefully cut “V” notches. I believe these have the same meaning as notches on a gun.  Unquestionably assembled from a Civil War infantry belt.  The rivets go through slotted holes where the U.S. oval hooks went. 39½” long.  $95

B.  PHOTOS  Flexible, sturdy. 40” long. Thin finish prox. 40% flaked.  $60

C.  PHOTOS  Sturdy.  Fairly lustrous finish.  Fine general cracking.  Some scattered shallow rubs, scuffs.  Light wear.  Very light, partially legible “ROCK ISLAND ARSENAL” markings.  I believe this was assembled from a Civil War belt. 42¾” long.  $125

D.  PHOTOS  Sturdy, well used belt.  Traces of flaking.  Rest of surface well textured. 43” long.  $65

G.  PHOTOS  Sturdy, flexible, 10% flaking.  Some raised texture to about 50% of the surface.  The rest just flex cracking.  Traces of markings – I believe Watervliet Arsenal – very hard to see.  42½” long.  $60

H.  PHOTOS  Nice belt.  Polish will transform.  Sturdy. Flexible.  Very thin finish.  40% flaked, but so thin, doesn’t detract a lot. Prox. 39½” long.   $85

I.   PHOTOS Fairly sturdy, flexible.  Worn, lightly textured finish.  Prox. 30% thin flaking.  42½” long. $60

J.   PHOTOS Fairly certain this belt is assembled from Civil War infantry belt.  Sturdy.  On the limp side.  Lots of flexing – surface cracking to smooth-ish finish. 47½” long.  $65

K.   PHOTOS Sturdy, flexible.  Not flaked.  Finish well textured, cracked, flexed.  Some luster. Traces of markings. 43” long.  $60

O.  PHOTOS  Fairly sound, flexible.  Prox. 20% fine grained flaking.  Rest of finish has generalized pattern of cracking, with worn surface.  Standard brass keeper on one end.  Brass adjusting hook on other.  3/8” open crack on one edge. 42½” long.  $65

40BBL  -  M1872 HAGNER U.S. ARMY ISSUE CARTRIDGE BOXES – TWO SIZES.  Issued for the M1866, 1868 and 1870 Trapdoor Springfield and Sharps carbine.  Originally issued for .50 caliber (holds 24 rounds), but later, some were converted to .45-70, for the M1873 Trapdoor.  Used interchangeably by Cavalry and Infantry, known as No. 1 (larger) and No. 2 (smaller).  These were originally made for use with the Hagner Brace System, but most were used without it, due to the unpopularity of the Brace.  CLICK EACH THUMBNAIL BELOW FOR LARGER VIEW

A.   No. 1 – Prox. 5 ¾ x 6 ¾”.  Have only one.  Embossed US oval on face very clear, but somewhat relaxed in depth. Mostly lustrous finish.  Face has generalized deep cracking to finish mostly to ends and bottom.  Reverse has somewhat less.  Ends have almost no cracking to finish.  Inside excellent.  Not converted to .45-70. Closing strap has tip broken off at hole, but is included.  Repair with thin backing.  Couple of inches of flaking on face on ends.  Scarce early Indian War box.  $150

B.  No. 2 – Prox. 4 x 7”.  Face has very relaxed, well faded oval US.  Can see most of it, but very light.  Leather overall excellent.  No flaking.  Excellent used finish.  Converted to .45-70.  Holds 24 rounds.  $95

C.     No. 2  -  Prox. 4 x 7”.  Bare traces remain of the relaxed, embossed US oval.  Leather overall excellent.  Finish on face has overall pattern of very shallow surface cracking.  Rest is fine.  Nice interior.  Takes 24 rounds.  Not converted to .45-70.  $120

D.     No. 2  -  Prox. 4 x 7”.  Almost no trace remains of the relaxed, embossed US oval.  Leather overall excellent.  No flaking.  The face only has minor texture from flexing with a little cracking to the thin finish.  The rest of the finish is excellent.  Nice interior.  Takes 24 rounds.  Not converted to .45-70.  $120

E.    No. 2  -  Prox. 4 x 7”.  Aside from the very relaxed US oval on the face, which you can see, but is very light, the leather is excellent, as is the finish.  Not cracked or flaked.  Just shows use.  Takes 24 rounds.  Not converted to .45-70.  $140

41BBL  -  ORIGINAL WRAPPER FOR 50 CIVIL WAR U.S. OVAL BELT PLATES.   More Photos, Click Here  We had one in this section a couple months ago, and it sold immediately.  We thought that was the only one, until we opened another box in storage for 30+ years.  The following is the last wrapper for belt plates that were held back so many years ago.  All came from a small accumulation of wrappers I saved over the past 46 years in the militaria business. It is absolutely original Civil War, as described. Would be great in any display.  Inside, it once held five paper wrapped packets of ten US ovals, each in the same heavy paper as used for the outer wrap. Prox. 17 x 20”, dark tan, and appears to be waxed or oiled, giving it a somewhat shiny surface.  I can personally guarantee this to be original and genuine, as I opened it many, many years ago and one by one, sold the plates.  Obviously it shows a number of folds, but quite good, and a unique and rare curiosity from the Civil War. Fascinating and rare relic.  $35

42BBL  -  FRAZIER’S 1872 PATENT CARTRIDGE BOX FOR TRAPDOOR SPRINGFIELD.  More Photos, Click Here    Indian War .45-70 cartridge box used concurrently with the M1874 McKeever, the Dyer, and the Hagner.  Sold to numerous U.S. National Guard/state militia units.  Black leather, 4 x 7”, with internal wood block drilled to hold 18 .45-70 cartridges.  Face of box, when cover flap is open, reveals several stamped markings reading “FRAZIER’S PATENT, FEBy 5^TH 1872/REISSUED MCH 5^TH 1878/PATENT APRIL 23^RD 1878/McKENNEY & CO./NEW YORK”.  Condition is sound and very good. Inscription on front of box is crisp, nearly as new.  Exterior retains most heavy tarred finish, which now shows heavy crazing to top and front with much less elsewhere – just scattered fine surface cracks.  Hinged area of closing strap shows wear.  Belt loops just have some worn finish.   Offered at wholesale.  S & S has these in lesser condition for $95.  Our price is only $79

43BBL  -  FRAZIER’S 1872 PATENT CARTRIDGE BOX FOR TRAPDOOR SPRINGFIELD.  More Photos, Click Here  Indian War .45-70 cartridge box used concurrently with the M1874 McKeever, the Dyer, and the Hagner.  Sold to numerous U.S. National Guard/state militia units.  Black leather, 4 x 7”, with internal wood block drilled to hold 18 .45-70 cartridges.  Face of box, when cover flap is open, reveals several stamped markings reading “FRAZIER’S PATENT, FEBy 5^TH 1872/REISSUED MCH 5^TH 1878/PATENT APRIL 23^RD 1878/McKENNEY & CO./NEW YORK”.  Very sound condition.  Retains about all original finish.  Front flap and top have thick tarred finish well crazed – rest much better just having scattered thin surface cracks.  A short bit of edge seam on top rounded corner is loose and could use re-sewing.  Closing strap hinge shows wear at the box connection, and the tip lacks about ½” – brass washer not affected.  Face of box markings are crisp and about good as new.  Offered at wholesale.  S & S has these in lesser condition for $95.  Our price is only $65

45BBL  -  McKEEVER M1881 CARTRIDGE BOX FOR TRAPDOOR SPRINGFIELD.  More Photos, Click Here  Regulation U.S. Army issue.  Third Type.  See Frasca & Hill’s book “The .45-70 Springfield”, pg. 269.  Indian War .45-70 cartridge box used concurrently by the military, along with the Frazier, Hagner & Dyer boxes.  Black leather 4 x 6 ½”.  Internal cartridge loops for 20 rounds.  Face originally had embossed US in oval.  This has faded away, and during its period of use, the U.S. was covered with a brass oval plate which may have been black (for decoration) or had a state’s initials, such as NJ for New Jersey militia.  Condition is very good.  Has virtually all its original finish, wish some surface crazing from age.  There are four holes in face from where the brass plate was affixed.  Rear of closing strap has somewhat legible “Watervliet Arsenal” markings. Also has SMITH markings inside box. $69

46BBL  -  McKEEVER M1881 CARTRIDGE BOX FOR TRAPDOOR SPRINGFIELD  More Photos, Click Here  Regulation Army issue.  Third Type.  See Frasca & Hill’s book “The .45-70 Springfield”, pg. 269.  Indian War .45-70 cartridge box used concurrently by the military, along with the Frazier, Hagner & Dyer boxes.  Black leather 4 x 6 ½”.  Internal cartridge loops for 20 rounds.  Face originally had embossed US oval.  On many, it faded as it aged.  This one has a legible US oval on face, but relaxed, with some shallow flaking of the finish.  Rest of face has some generalized surface cracking to finish.  Closing strap well flexed and arsenal stamp at base of strap well relaxed and no longer legible.  Backside of box excellent with little surface cracking.  Stitching to bottom of belt loops inexplicably gone, leaving excellent leather.  Replaced with neat loop of brass wire (very old) which twists inside.  Provides adequate support and is neat.  Inside has fairly flexible canvas cartridge loops (20), and inspector’s stamp.  Top rear junction of right side and rear panel has broken stitching for about 1”.  Overall sound box.  $65

47BBL  -  McKEEVER M1881 CARTRIDGE BOX FOR TRAPDOOR SPRINGFIELD  More Photos, Click Here  SOLD  Regulation U.S. Army issue.  Third Type.  See Frasca & Hill’s book “The .45-70 Springfield”, pg. 269.  Indian War .45-70 cartridge box used concurrently by the military, along with the Frazier, Hagner & Dyer boxes.  Black leather 4 x 6 ½”.  Internal cartridge loops for 20 rounds.  Face originally had embossed US in oval.  Condition is excellent, just showing use.  Has virtually all original finish with minor crazing to surface and a bit of wear on closing strap and belt loops.  Clear “Rock Island Arsenal” markings.    $79

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